This was a very insightful video. I have watched the follow up regarding the benefits of and what makes the KRX suspension better than most out of the box (geometry). I am shopping for my first SxS, a significant purchase, and I am torn between Polaris, Can-Am and the Kawasaki. Each model I am drawn to is very attractive for certain features. I like the low profile, power and sound from the X3. I like the accessories of the Polaris and their General model. I like the look of the KRX and your point that it has a very good suspension without need for much work. I like the plug and play capability for lighting, options that Polaris and Can-Am have... Kawasaki not so much. I like a roomier seat, a more reclined seating position and comfort in a unit that is fun as well as one that I will not have to mod out in order to make it reliable. In my area, trails, wooded areas, hunting etc are part of recreation life as well as a small amount of utility. I'm also interested in something that I can put an complete enclosure on for Fall temps... would prefer that I could buy it from factory that way. Thanks for the great information, I am nowhere close to deciding what to buy however. ;)
Love my shock therapy suspension you guys are awesome !
Did he say no belt maybe next year? For the 2022 models? Do I buy now or wait? Help!!!!!!!
For a 64" turbo what would you recommend. I'm on the fence between the XP pro and X3 XDS. I'm all trail riding, with some trails being pretty tight.
Awesome thanks. Now is it worth the extra money to get the ultimate, or is the base model more then good enough?
What makes the XP PRO next to impossible to roll?
No way I’d ever learned all this on my own! I think most couldn’t either!
Has the 2021 Can Am Maverick X3 XRC RR suspension been improved over the 2020 model? Specifically the sheers points?
@Shock Therapy llc Any idea about the 2021?
@Shock Therapy llc Thanks very much!
Nope all are the same
Thanks for the good info .my wife said she's never seen me take notes before .😁
man say car one more time lol
Are walker evans shocks any good?
Great video! Help needed finding the right vehicle for the wife and I. Never did any off roading but love agate hunting in the UP of MI. Want something that can get us through the sugar sand, up sand dunes, through mud/occassional flooded trail. Both of us are around 50 and don't care about going fast but do prefer a more comfortable ride. Not looking for a forest caddy but don't want to be tossed around by every little bump in the trail. Adjustable seats, desscent leg room, storage, heater for her is a must. Wife is balking at $20k price tag but is onboard for $10k. Having a heck of a time figuring out what to get that is durable, low maintenance, and will get us to the places we want to go in that price range. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
@Shock Therapy llc thanks for responding and giving me the ammo I needed to spend 20k! 😃 You guys are awesome!
my suggestion would be a Polaris General. You will be around 20k but that is what it takes for a nice new UTV. Older, Rangers or Defenders don't have the suspension and will ride rough. The new General can come with a heater kit that was used in the Ranger but fits it the General. Also the General is the only one with a completely sealed cab door and window option that makes that heater actually work. That's pretty much it. You really need to work on her for that budget or it's over. LOL
Justin made two very interesting comments in this April 2020 vid. At 16:27, he mentions that there might be a turbo car coming out in 2021 that is not a belt drive. And at 19:15 he says that there will soon be "choices" in the width of the XP Pro (i.e., not limited to 64"). I wonder if, in both of those comments, he is referring to the much anticipated XP Pro "R" that Polaris is currently working on that might be 72 to 74 inches wide and might have the 200+ hp 2-liter engine with 5 speed transmission that is currently in the Slingshot. There are a number of vids on YT that talk about this new "R" version. Here it is November 10, 2020 as I'm typing this, and still no official word from Polaris on the "R" version.
Edit: here is a YT vid that talks in detail about the upcoming R version: algone.info/slow/video/pWy53KtpiXuWu6M And this one has a pic of the new R version at 11:12: algone.info/slow/video/rJDMq2eDhGmDpGQ
Would you still recommend the artic cat 1000xx. I’ve heard they are discontinuing them. I love the wildcat but my worry Is parts being available if something breaks
@Shock Therapy llc thank you
I would not. Exactly for the reason you mentioned.
Krx or base model x3? Seems like you can get them for similar pricing
The talon doesn’t have a front locker differential... 🤣
Yxz has a turbo kit from Yam-ee-ha! And no belt
Honestly, not feeding Polaris is advertising bullshit, Honda all the way
I quit watching because he calls them cars. 😐
I just recently started thinking of 4 wheeling again, I used to ride with a club for a tiny while in 2003-2004, but I didn't have the money for the Jeep or Truck. I'd love to own a UTV, and I know for a fact it will never happen, but it's a nice daydream. I like the Polaris RZR XP 4 Turbo: 2 seater.
Thanks for all of these videos, very insightful. Hypothetical question; if you had $30k max budget, what would you build? A ready made turbo car or install a turbo on a KRX? Thanks
@Tim Moore I feel the same. we have a kit for more sway bar control coming out in the next 30 days or so just for that reason.
@Shock Therapy llc excellent response. Thank you. For now I guess I’ll just enjoy my KRX with some clutch/slip-on/re-flash mods. We ride the Black Hills, SD, so big power isn’t totally necessary just more fun. FYI, the KRX is a blast in the snow. I call her the “Beast”. I think it needs heavier sways bars though. I softened it up for the rocks and ruts, but she’s a leaner. Your thoughts? Thanks again. Keep the vids coming.
Ready made all the way. If the KRX had a factory turbo I would do that. Reason is I don't want the hassles and pain of an aftermarket turbo kit. Even the best kits have issues. Loose your warrantee, bla bla bla. Also the KRX computer has yet to broken into properly and support a turbo. Big companies have tried so I don't see that as a viable option. An aftermarket computer will do it but then your budget is shot. For all those reasons and more I am ready made turbo car or wait for the KRX turbo.
Thinking I NEED general
Q: best 4 seat, 4x4, trail rider, full suspension, load bed, dependable , lights & radio? Thanks
Polaris General all the way
Great show, learned a lot,,,but , please name maker with code names, thanks
Hi guys what's the Best rzr for Big sand dunes ?
If when you say RZR you mean Polaris then an XP pro is my favorite in the dunes. If when you say RZR you mean any SXS then an X3 RS would be my favorite.
What are your thoughts on the Maverick sport line up.
I would get one if I could drive it on the road legally.
I'll take the new Robbie Gordon SPEED UTV
What has happened to Polaris general and quality control ? I'm hearing a ton of people who are always working on them. I have a 2004 sportsman 700 and have only had to change a temp sensor. Other than that it has been perfect. So has Polaris lost their way ?
Is it worth hanging off buying a new x3 or go ahead and buy 1 ?? Thank you for the info !
Too much lingo to follow, I want to buy my first utv and I am overwhelmed. I had a old Jeep because I loved the short wheel base. I want ground clearance, I’m older, I need comfort, I love power, I don’t want to be working on it. Have that with our boats, plus I plan on doing some muddling in West Virginia. Do I need a snorkel. Hubby is 6’3” and I’m fat! We need room
Have you decided? The Honda Pioneer 1000 looks pretty sweet. Big, comfortable, reliable. Fast enough for me. I think that’s the one I’m going with.
Kwai, what about ground clearance
He comes across as wanting to turn a wrench, manage his business and drive. I completely understand.
Just bought an XP Pro 4 Ultimate, I did alot of research and its seems like it gets a bad wrap online on the forums. It seems like all guys who are really into this stuff like him love the Pro XP. Itll be here in a month, cant wait to see for myself.
Why isn’t the rzr 1000 included in the non turbo
Bought a new RZR RS1 last night. Cant wait to take it out this weekend.
How much was it?
Wow that was great info - but disappointing since I was going to by a yxz 2019 SESS as my first UTV - coming from a WR450F. I still plan to buy it but will have to seriously reconsider CANAM. Prefer the standard shifting of the YXZ. With a spare tire and trail riding on the east coast (no whoops) I think it will be fine for me. Now I need to figure out which CANAM might suit my riding which is Hatfield McCoy and Michigan sandy trails/ I see the comment from Ty below. I am sticking with my gut and bleeding blue most likely
I have a wiring question. When wiring accessories to the cage, do you run wires through your cage or run them externally?
Can I sand tires
CVT bad. Next.
Turbo addon Honda talon. Thoughts
Where is Suzuki in this war? Is Can Am Suzuki???
Outstanding gentlemen! To have the advantage of your knowledge and the years it took to accumulate, is priceless! You have generously given a continent of knowledge sparing the bs. This is the most real, direct and educational video I've seen. Well done sir! Thank you for your kindness and vast knowledge in your field of expertise.
You sir are too kind. Thank you and we are glad to help!
Where is your shop located
Go through the razor rs1
What about the cub cadet utvs?? Lol.
What about a cf moto
So for someone new like me who wants to go out to the dunes with friends and go hard And doesn’t have a mechanical side I’m better off getting the Xp pro? And which version of it? Honestly new to this whole thing and been wanting to get into it but never sure where to start I just want something I can take out and have some fun in and as I learn it more upgrade as I go also I live in the desert
why do you call it a car
What are your recommendations for upgrading 2020 Polaris General.....
Shock internals and spring kit are huge. After that seats, belts and stronger wheels. I have not worn anything else out yet. Oh also BIG cooler for lots of beer cuz that thing is good some long rides and it’s the center of every break time. 👍
Ugh debating can am vs Polaris 😫
What about the pioneer 1000 5 for utility
Wow you guys are awesome . So much knowledge , very interesting . I am an atv guy , but you had my attention the whole way because of the honesty . Great work and good luck where ever you go .
Im going to be getting a KRX 1000. I want to trail ride and do some rock krawling
I sold my 2020 turbo s. Just got the KRX so much happier. I dont race so that isnt a factor. Comfort, room, looks, shifting into gear way smoother, throttle response for rock crawler way better, passenger seat adjustable, bead locks. I love this thing. Which I would have done this fromt he start would have saved 10k. If I want more power they have a turbo that brings it to 174 hp which is more the the rzr.
I have watched this video now literally 10 times over last couple months. TONS OF GREAT INFO! Thank you all. One Choice FOR EAST COAST CAR - No whoops / Rocks-Trails-Mud-Hill Climbs Whats your choice 64" car and your choice 72" car? Keep up the great work!
64. Lots of trails are restricted there. Also with tight terrain a narrow car would be ideal.
I just found this channel and video trying to figure out what UTV I want and it turns out your shop is 10 minutes from my house. Awesome!!
Stop by some time!
Honda Pioneer 1000r5
I hear a machine in the back ground? The cutter needs to be sharpened!!
I have a topic for you: Best safe and cushy ride for older couples who want to switch off driving. Must be able to capably handle the occasional drop off, rock, or puddle. If the machine can’t handle the unknown problems ahead, then speed must be reduced and fun with it! Not everyone can take the risks that young guys can.
Love it. We will try to get that done. Thank you.
My brother-in-law was about to buy a Talon I said hold up and watch this first it’s a wealth of knowledge. He changed his mind.
Loved the video, wish there was a little more coverage about YXZ's, as that's the one I'm still leaning towards despite living in Florida. This would be my first SXS but I've ridden in older Mavericks and Talon's and I'd imagine the YXZ can do everything the Talon can but better(besides anything requiring low gearing) and that's enough for me! I currently own a Can Am Outlander and I'm completely done dealing with belts. I just want to jump in the Yamaha and forget about it and over time slap some power adders on it. I would love to get an X3 turbo but solely because it's belt driven I've lost interest with constantly worrying about my current one!
If you don’t run whoops or jumps then you will love your choice.
Non turbo 2021 polaris general 4 xp 1000. Any opinions you can give. With the new upgrades im leaning towards it over a turbo s rzr because of the plans I have for it camping out of it. Do you think in a rzr you could pack close to the same amount of stuff
Honda talon is the best
no not even close to worth it
Outstanding video answered a lot of questions I had
Where are these live videos held? On fb or where?
Facebook and instagram. Tuesday and Thursday about 12:30. 👍
Any information on a cfmoto zforce 1000?
Just found this video - literally the *best* one out there on the topic. So thanks. Just subscribed. One question however: In the video, when referencing the Turbo Can Am, the only reference I could find was to call it an X3. I realize this is shorthand, but for those of us new to SXS's, can you elaborate which of the literally 10 different X3 models you're referring to? DS, RS, MR, RC, R, RR, Smart Shox, etc. It's all pretty confusing to us newb's. Looking for the best rig for Colorado & Moab. What say you?
@Shock Therapy llc you guys rock! Thank you!
@jlayton86 You can do both. Just call the shop either way and set up an appointment. That way your done the same day. Thank you
@Shock Therapy llc Helps a ton - thank you! To put the Shock Therapy Love on them, can I just ship the shocks or bring the whole car?
Thank you very much. When referring to the X3 I am blanketly meaning any 72" wide model. Simply put, any X3 that is not a DS. The rest of them are basically the same geometry, shock packages and frame design. In your area, I would run any of them but I think the new smart shox are pretty awesome. But they are stiff out of the box and some Shock Therapy love will get them right where you want them to be. I just love the in car adjustability as you drive. Hope this helps.
Alec Baldwin? lol
It's a human fact, we don't like the truth about nothing
@shocktherapy is the geometry any better on the honda talon 1000x-4 Then the 2 seater or is hanging weight on the rear still necessary?
The issues are the same on all Honda’s irregardless of wheel base. So weight off the back is just as important.
Two seater or 4 seater, whats best in the desert?
Great video. Here’s my suggestion for topics, you may have covered this. I’m new to this and haven’t purchased my first car yet. What is a great car that I can but and drive that is dependable, a joy to drive busy doesn’t need anything extra to get going? Mostly trails in Arkansas and Colorado.
I think a/c in a sxs is the dumbest thing ever. Im sure it gets hot out in the desert just drive faster
What color is the cage on that turbo s? Illusion cherry?
My '18 Turbo XP is a beast for woods riding.....but that is all we do in East texas.....out West is a whole different world.......
Sorry i just have to state that i have a 81 atc that is fat man on a little fun wheeler. Everyone is huge on a 110 wheeler but i also rip a 250r and i know buuuut guess what also Honda foreman es esp. Well shit tards i dont hate much lol but im a honda guy articat zrt 600, Toyota truck RW. But one thing has never left my pride honda 4 wheelers i wont come back and message this comment i will still be on the 110 and letting the 250r give me fun and have a foreman for work. You just cant beat Honda's if you think you can just tell me your older running machine also i know Yamaha guys dont respond it is a totaly different concept as we know
Love the honesty guys! Thanks a ton