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ED PARKER
I just preordered my 2021 x3 turbo r and now I’m starting to regret it! Pretty much gotta add another 10k in parts! What machine is great out of the box? Mind you this is my first sxs and I’ve never driven one. So all is new to me. Any info would be greatly appreciated
MuddBoyz TV
Polaris rzr, they have done a video on that topic
Team HellMammoth
great video and info thanks
L Hurst
Great information, nothing wrong in this video at all.
Trevor Braden
No parts list or links?
Randy Krus
Just listening to all the things you have to do to a X3 makes me think BRP just makes junk....Seems like it would be relatively easy and inexpensive for Can Am to beef up the front end and double shear connection points.....why would they have to 'vet' something that is not only a quality control item but also a safety item? Doesn't make business sense....
outlaw
The TMW shock mount can you run the, baja designs shock brace light? Asking because im currently running the light.
MDJAK
I know this was a while ago but just got my 2021 X3 XD S Turbo RR. Reliable info, other than you awesome guys, is hard to come by. The bulkhead you sell, will that take a Warn Axon 45 winch?
Steve 8511
Irregardless isn't a word 😇
Good boy Ringo
To bad you have to pay big money buying the x3 then rebuild it. X3 should have never been made with single sheer parts. Those parts cost half what the x3 cost, ggg.
Larry Reece
So I don’t really see a list??? And some of the stuff mentioned quickly is Greek? I have a new 2021 can am dx turbo, and would like the beef up 2000.00 kit, mostly off road adventure park/trail riding. Is there a kit to include everything, or would we have to figure out how to order everything separately?? Justin mentioned a front bulkhead double shear kit, but can’t find this anywhere? Thanks, new and learning!
Dbarge 761
Great so a 30k$ unit only needs 5k worth of reinforcements and re-engineering to the whole front end to be not a pile of junk !! Aren’t these chassis extremely weak even after the gusset kits are done?? I hear stories about cracks all over the chassis the tubing is about the thickness of exhaust tubing seriously wtf should I get rid of mine and get a xp turbo S rzr Emphasis on the S!! ????
Randy Conklin
Whats up with all the people asking irrelevant questions live?
Randy Krus
I hope Can Am is taking notes......jesus.....
cyasi
Brand new.....and its a money pit before you get it home. Wtf?
Garry Mickelsen
I'm going to do the Bulkhead gusset kit this winter. I think the CT race worx has a gusset on the top that TMW does not. Is this any better or needed? I've narrowed it down between these two.
Garry Mickelsen
@Shock Therapy llc Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate your input. I really enjoy our video's also!
Shock Therapy llc
I would suggest the TMW kit strictly from the standpoint of structure and frame mounting. I have a lot of cars pre run the 1000 race course with us with the TMW kit and zero issues. This is a pretty high barometer for real world longevity.
Mike Sed
Hi Justin I just picked up a 2021 x3 Mx RR . Do you think they still need the basic upgrades to keep it from breaking down? I’m not racing just playing in the desert and dunes
Shock Therapy llc
Yes sir. They still need them. They have not upgraded the weak spot yet in the 21’s
Matthew
What bumper is that on the prerunner?
Gazlay43
Why would CanAm make everything single shear? That’s so lazy and cheap.
Oo Oooo
I got a question on your x3 do you weld any of the brackets you mention? Or you just bolt them on?
Shock Therapy llc
We weld most of them on our car. But it isn’t needed on most play cars. Only on the race side of things.
Larry Reece
Just bought X3, how do I get the 2000 dollar list for my play car? Lots of parts listed, is there a lot that includes all your list, for a 21 maverick x3 ds turbo, to upgrade???
Shock Therapy llc
Just use the video as your list and contact TMW or Geiser for the parts. They will get you all hooked up
LV Fig & Garden Channel
When we drop off for shocks will you guys mount all the other upgrades you just listed?
Alan Wright
So many commercials...
Jaron Jaggers
Did anything change on this list for the 2021? I.E. did it go to a double shear
Jaron Jaggers
recommendation: Build a bomb proof my X3 Kit / Bombproof my XP Kit: Bundle it all and put it on your website :) Thank me later
Shock Therapy llc
@Jaron Jaggers I do often say this is the most expensive FREE show out there. It is the cause of many expensive purchases! Welcome to the X3 family. Thank you for the kind words.
Jaron Jaggers
Well thanks for making me go buy an x3! My business is coming your way. Throughly enjoy the excellent source of info. I don’t recall many in last few years, or any at all, sources of info that I watched numerous times. I’m an east coast guy by the way. #bullyback
Shock Therapy llc
@Jaron Jaggers We are actually doing that but we don't make much. Other than shock work we have a BSD tie rod kit and TLS rear hub kit. Maybe Radius rods too. Those are going to pop up together if you choose one on the site soon. The rest of the frame stuff we will leave to others. Thank you very much for the recommendation. Really appreciate it!
Jaron Jaggers
I mean of the parts that are currently on your site.
Shock Therapy llc
you are correct. But that would piss off all of the shops that we do work for. Also, we are not in the business of building these parts and prefer to let others do it. Makes a lot of sense and we certainly can do it but we should not do it and just concentrate on one thing, shocks.
Machiavelli_ G
Do you guys sell a kit? That would be amazing. Just got 2 rr turbos and want to make sure I’m not running into any problems.
Shock Therapy llc
No sir. we just stay with shocks. Contact TMW, S3 and Geiser Performance.
Joe Anderson
Can you do a video for Making a Trouble Free XX?
r phe
I really enjoyed this episode
Adam Nunez
If I show up to the shop with 2,000 bucks can I get it bulletproof? Or is that price without labor ?
Neil S
What bulkhead would you recommend for a can an X3 RC?
ZIMA Motorsports
Awesome video and great group of guys! Keep it up!
Roland Hintzman
How much weight do all of your $2000 upgrades add to the car?
Kyle Schmidt
Thanks for making this video, been riding mine hard and I'd like to not have it break.
mcce11
great video Shock Therapy. I enjoy watching your videos. I was just curious how well are the roll cages on these stock compared to others? Thanks
Dbarge 761
Shock Therapy llc Do you think these x3s are so weak that they need stripped down to the bare chassis and have diagonal bracing tig welded in to make them reliable long term??
Kyle Schmidt
I was upside down in mine and the cage was fine, per the dealer even.
Shock Therapy llc
They are pretty good I have not seen any crushed cages
Carlos Lugo
What do you think about the XMX Radius Rod Nut Plates which mount behind the thin metal where the radius rods mount? I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned. I know the TMW is double sheer radius rod plate but it's still only being supported by that thin piece of metal which most likely has oblonged holes. The XMX would make it double sheer even with just a regular radius rod plate right? Seems like the better choice.
Mike Andrews
Making an x3 reliable? Good luck! It was designed to not be.
devvyboy tiktok
Theyve got it covered by far lol..
Rusty Buzoff
If I change out the the rear radios rods, will I have to align the rear of the car or do they come pre set to factory spec?
Gearhead Grind
It depends on the brand that you purchase.
GENINC
Only $100 for two bolts and sleeves and he says that with a straight face. Damn! Does it come with lube at least?
Roland Hintzman
You get what you pay for or, sometimes not. I bought the more expensive Lonestar solution to the center rear radius arm issue and was not able to fit it to my car due to tolerance stack up issues. So it sets on my work bench as a reminder of a bad investment. In the mean time I'm monitoring my machine, a 2018 XRC with 3500+ miles, and will jump on the Shock Therapy solution at the first sign of an issue.
Spencer Ross
Looking forward to the Turbo S video!
Jason D
Wow I knew some of this but not all seems x3 needs a lot of aftermarket parts.
Garry Mickelsen
Haven't seen a SXS yet that doesn't
devvyboy tiktok
Im finding out the hard way 😂😭
Mike Rosenberg
Are these the same weak points with the RC as well, or are a lot of these things beefed up in that model which you’d obviously think would/should be for the price?
Fun freq
I'm curious to know, when the Speed UTV car is launched seeing how everything supposedly is already done on the car are you going to try one or stay with CanAm?
Shock Therapy llc
We will have one in the shop to do testing and mods to when they come out. We will make our mind up after that.
Neil S
I have a x3 RC with a winch do still need all the front double shear kit ?
Neil S
What kit do you recommend that will work with the winch?
Shock Therapy llc
Absolutely. The winch supports nothing.
DirtFire Racing
I knew that they had a few issues, but man your better to find a good used one then dump the money into it. Great video you guys are killing it and your race shop is very clean.
Shock Therapy llc
Thank you very much
Paul T
Ouch, poor Chase! Do you install gusset kits etc when people bring cars in for suspension work? Also the RC has a front "bulkhead" installed with the factory winch isn't this doubled sheared as a result?
Gearhead Grind
The RC's are an exception as they are double sheer as a result. But they still rely on the front control arm bolts as mounting points. Any good bulkhead kit will also have bolts to tie it to the front of the frame itself. So for myself, I have a 2020 RC and run a front gusset kit and bulkhead in between the frame and the front winch plate.
Tristan Hipps
im not shocked that the x3 has so many weak points. their snowmobiles are notorious for the bulk heads caving in or bending tunnels. thats a total loss for the sled when it happens.
Heily -
I understand production cars can’t have everything on them but the double shear seems like common sense and it wouldn’t cost that much more to manufacture them I don’t get it?
Shock Therapy llc
I agree
Raymond McDonald
Hi guys / Justin. Firstly thank you for the modification information. I really appreciate the professionalism you and your crew portray other than one (ahem) I won't name names. (-: Question: I have been searching for a list of all of the mod items you spoke of to no avail. Have not been able to find one. Am I just being a dork not looking in the right place or is there no list? Thanks, keep up the GREAT informational videos.
Shock Therapy llc
Not sure if there is a list anywhere. Other than this video we have not made one. But, bulkhead and double sheer supports and shock tower braces are TMW, Geiser and S3. Radius rods are all over. TLS kit is us. Frame weld in supports are TMW. That is the short list. Hope that helps.
mike ryan
Excellent video, thanks!!!!!!!!!
RgrPete11b3vb4
Your insight and un-biased videos are great. Unfortunately I have a stack of stock lower A-arms for my X-RC that keep piling up. I called CT Race Worx and asked them what fails? (Lowers, sway bar links and radius rods) Added their lower a-arms (lifetime warranty) and haven’t broke or bent it yet. We love your suspension set up and we also added the toe link bushings.
Mark Cremeans
Have you guy work on cfmoto 800 and 1000 sport Utvs . Do you make any parts for them
Greg Olsen
Thank you for the video.. Tons of useful information. #nochase
Jaran Higley
#lovechase ...not! Lol!
Good-N-Tight Handle
Best place to buy weld in shock tabs and such?
Shock Therapy llc
Tmw
craneyguy
Awesome info teacher. Thank you guys again for all this free info.
Wee Man
Do you think in 2021 Can Am, or Polaris will do a DCT like the Honda Talon? With the power these units are getting to, I would think they would need to move away from the BELT.
Wee Man
Heily - that’s why I am asking, I have been holding off on another SXS to see if this will happen. Right now it’s a toss up for me between the Polaris, Kawasaki, and Can Am. I am a big and tall type of guy so Honda just didn’t fit me, I guess 6’5” and 290 isn’t a good combo. The Kawasaki I really liked but WAY TO LITTLE POWER, have owned the X3 max so I know I like the can am just seating style I am not totally a fan of.
Heily -
Wee Man i’d like to hear his response to this he alluded to it in a previous video I believe
Heily -
I’d like to hear a response to this he alluded to it in a previous video I believe
DUNE YXZ
Ive been thinking that for years. It’s why I bought the YXZ!
NTR Films
Shared this to my friends who has X3 #NoChase something like this video for the Textron XX seeing one on my future soon
Todd Whitmer
Front A arms, or keep them as the weak link?
Carlos Lugo
Wow that's crazy to hear.
Shock Therapy llc
We run stock unsupported a arms on our pre runner. Never failed unless I made a big mistake driving so I would say keep them.
Jarrett Labate
Someone just needs to make a full chromoly frame and cage
pse hunter
Wow eye opener‼️ I wasn’t sure what to go with l had a choice between the can am and the rzr turbo s. I got the Polaris and this confirms I made the correct choice
Chris Richards
Might want to wait until they do the Polaris video, every machine has issues.
Douglas Holloway
I need an X3 64" FRONT Swaybar. When?
Shock Therapy llc
We’re not for sure on that one yet
Ross Vesci
Any new t shirts
Ross Vesci
I get one every video
Shock Therapy llc
You just have to check our site for shirt styles and new ones come out every few months.
Jarrett Voyzey
Where would the RIS (with internal valving and spring kit) fall in place on this list for a 2017 X3 XDS? Or are the stock shocks good enough that it’s not on this list? Thanks in advance and great video!
Jarrett Voyzey
Shock Therapy llc haha true true, makes sense from that standpoint. Trying to budget stuff out so this list should definitely come before any “fun” stuff lol. Thanks for the quick reply!
Shock Therapy llc
This is a list to help with parts that wear out or give you short trips. The shocks are not one of those. But the RIS and spring will make it way more fun to drive and you may drive much faster which in turn will wear out more parts. So, they are a contributor to the parts list I mentioned. LOL
Rockcrawler 66
Are the new 2021 CanAm x3 xrc Turbo RR going to have any new upgrades like better front end ?
Wee Man
Shock Therapy llc Do you think in 2021 Can Am, or Polaris will do a DCT like the Honda Talon? With the power these units are getting to, I would think they would need to move away from the BELT.
I just preordered my 2021 x3 turbo r and now I’m starting to regret it! Pretty much gotta add another 10k in parts! What machine is great out of the box? Mind you this is my first sxs and I’ve never driven one. So all is new to me. Any info would be greatly appreciated
Polaris rzr, they have done a video on that topic
great video and info thanks
Great information, nothing wrong in this video at all.
No parts list or links?
Just listening to all the things you have to do to a X3 makes me think BRP just makes junk....Seems like it would be relatively easy and inexpensive for Can Am to beef up the front end and double shear connection points.....why would they have to 'vet' something that is not only a quality control item but also a safety item? Doesn't make business sense....
The TMW shock mount can you run the, baja designs shock brace light? Asking because im currently running the light.
I know this was a while ago but just got my 2021 X3 XD S Turbo RR. Reliable info, other than you awesome guys, is hard to come by. The bulkhead you sell, will that take a Warn Axon 45 winch?
Irregardless isn't a word 😇
To bad you have to pay big money buying the x3 then rebuild it. X3 should have never been made with single sheer parts. Those parts cost half what the x3 cost, ggg.
So I don’t really see a list??? And some of the stuff mentioned quickly is Greek? I have a new 2021 can am dx turbo, and would like the beef up 2000.00 kit, mostly off road adventure park/trail riding. Is there a kit to include everything, or would we have to figure out how to order everything separately?? Justin mentioned a front bulkhead double shear kit, but can’t find this anywhere? Thanks, new and learning!
Great so a 30k$ unit only needs 5k worth of reinforcements and re-engineering to the whole front end to be not a pile of junk !! Aren’t these chassis extremely weak even after the gusset kits are done?? I hear stories about cracks all over the chassis the tubing is about the thickness of exhaust tubing seriously wtf should I get rid of mine and get a xp turbo S rzr Emphasis on the S!! ????
Whats up with all the people asking irrelevant questions live?
I hope Can Am is taking notes......jesus.....
Brand new.....and its a money pit before you get it home. Wtf?
I'm going to do the Bulkhead gusset kit this winter. I think the CT race worx has a gusset on the top that TMW does not. Is this any better or needed? I've narrowed it down between these two.
@Shock Therapy llc Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate your input. I really enjoy our video's also!
I would suggest the TMW kit strictly from the standpoint of structure and frame mounting. I have a lot of cars pre run the 1000 race course with us with the TMW kit and zero issues. This is a pretty high barometer for real world longevity.
Hi Justin I just picked up a 2021 x3 Mx RR . Do you think they still need the basic upgrades to keep it from breaking down? I’m not racing just playing in the desert and dunes
Yes sir. They still need them. They have not upgraded the weak spot yet in the 21’s
What bumper is that on the prerunner?
Why would CanAm make everything single shear? That’s so lazy and cheap.
I got a question on your x3 do you weld any of the brackets you mention? Or you just bolt them on?
We weld most of them on our car. But it isn’t needed on most play cars. Only on the race side of things.
Just bought X3, how do I get the 2000 dollar list for my play car? Lots of parts listed, is there a lot that includes all your list, for a 21 maverick x3 ds turbo, to upgrade???
Just use the video as your list and contact TMW or Geiser for the parts. They will get you all hooked up
When we drop off for shocks will you guys mount all the other upgrades you just listed?
So many commercials...
Did anything change on this list for the 2021? I.E. did it go to a double shear
recommendation: Build a bomb proof my X3 Kit / Bombproof my XP Kit: Bundle it all and put it on your website :) Thank me later
@Jaron Jaggers I do often say this is the most expensive FREE show out there. It is the cause of many expensive purchases! Welcome to the X3 family. Thank you for the kind words.
Well thanks for making me go buy an x3! My business is coming your way. Throughly enjoy the excellent source of info. I don’t recall many in last few years, or any at all, sources of info that I watched numerous times. I’m an east coast guy by the way. #bullyback
@Jaron Jaggers We are actually doing that but we don't make much. Other than shock work we have a BSD tie rod kit and TLS rear hub kit. Maybe Radius rods too. Those are going to pop up together if you choose one on the site soon. The rest of the frame stuff we will leave to others. Thank you very much for the recommendation. Really appreciate it!
I mean of the parts that are currently on your site.
you are correct. But that would piss off all of the shops that we do work for. Also, we are not in the business of building these parts and prefer to let others do it. Makes a lot of sense and we certainly can do it but we should not do it and just concentrate on one thing, shocks.
Do you guys sell a kit? That would be amazing. Just got 2 rr turbos and want to make sure I’m not running into any problems.
No sir. we just stay with shocks. Contact TMW, S3 and Geiser Performance.
Can you do a video for Making a Trouble Free XX?
I really enjoyed this episode
If I show up to the shop with 2,000 bucks can I get it bulletproof? Or is that price without labor ?
What bulkhead would you recommend for a can an X3 RC?
Awesome video and great group of guys! Keep it up!
How much weight do all of your $2000 upgrades add to the car?
Thanks for making this video, been riding mine hard and I'd like to not have it break.
great video Shock Therapy. I enjoy watching your videos. I was just curious how well are the roll cages on these stock compared to others? Thanks
Shock Therapy llc Do you think these x3s are so weak that they need stripped down to the bare chassis and have diagonal bracing tig welded in to make them reliable long term??
I was upside down in mine and the cage was fine, per the dealer even.
They are pretty good I have not seen any crushed cages
What do you think about the XMX Radius Rod Nut Plates which mount behind the thin metal where the radius rods mount? I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned. I know the TMW is double sheer radius rod plate but it's still only being supported by that thin piece of metal which most likely has oblonged holes. The XMX would make it double sheer even with just a regular radius rod plate right? Seems like the better choice.
Making an x3 reliable? Good luck! It was designed to not be.
Theyve got it covered by far lol..
If I change out the the rear radios rods, will I have to align the rear of the car or do they come pre set to factory spec?
It depends on the brand that you purchase.
Only $100 for two bolts and sleeves and he says that with a straight face. Damn! Does it come with lube at least?
You get what you pay for or, sometimes not. I bought the more expensive Lonestar solution to the center rear radius arm issue and was not able to fit it to my car due to tolerance stack up issues. So it sets on my work bench as a reminder of a bad investment. In the mean time I'm monitoring my machine, a 2018 XRC with 3500+ miles, and will jump on the Shock Therapy solution at the first sign of an issue.
Looking forward to the Turbo S video!
Wow I knew some of this but not all seems x3 needs a lot of aftermarket parts.
Haven't seen a SXS yet that doesn't
Im finding out the hard way 😂😭
Are these the same weak points with the RC as well, or are a lot of these things beefed up in that model which you’d obviously think would/should be for the price?
I'm curious to know, when the Speed UTV car is launched seeing how everything supposedly is already done on the car are you going to try one or stay with CanAm?
We will have one in the shop to do testing and mods to when they come out. We will make our mind up after that.
I have a x3 RC with a winch do still need all the front double shear kit ?
What kit do you recommend that will work with the winch?
Absolutely. The winch supports nothing.
I knew that they had a few issues, but man your better to find a good used one then dump the money into it. Great video you guys are killing it and your race shop is very clean.
Thank you very much
Ouch, poor Chase! Do you install gusset kits etc when people bring cars in for suspension work? Also the RC has a front "bulkhead" installed with the factory winch isn't this doubled sheared as a result?
The RC's are an exception as they are double sheer as a result. But they still rely on the front control arm bolts as mounting points. Any good bulkhead kit will also have bolts to tie it to the front of the frame itself. So for myself, I have a 2020 RC and run a front gusset kit and bulkhead in between the frame and the front winch plate.
im not shocked that the x3 has so many weak points. their snowmobiles are notorious for the bulk heads caving in or bending tunnels. thats a total loss for the sled when it happens.
I understand production cars can’t have everything on them but the double shear seems like common sense and it wouldn’t cost that much more to manufacture them I don’t get it?
I agree
Hi guys / Justin. Firstly thank you for the modification information. I really appreciate the professionalism you and your crew portray other than one (ahem) I won't name names. (-: Question: I have been searching for a list of all of the mod items you spoke of to no avail. Have not been able to find one. Am I just being a dork not looking in the right place or is there no list? Thanks, keep up the GREAT informational videos.
Not sure if there is a list anywhere. Other than this video we have not made one. But, bulkhead and double sheer supports and shock tower braces are TMW, Geiser and S3. Radius rods are all over. TLS kit is us. Frame weld in supports are TMW. That is the short list. Hope that helps.
Excellent video, thanks!!!!!!!!!
Your insight and un-biased videos are great. Unfortunately I have a stack of stock lower A-arms for my X-RC that keep piling up. I called CT Race Worx and asked them what fails? (Lowers, sway bar links and radius rods) Added their lower a-arms (lifetime warranty) and haven’t broke or bent it yet. We love your suspension set up and we also added the toe link bushings.
Have you guy work on cfmoto 800 and 1000 sport Utvs . Do you make any parts for them
Thank you for the video.. Tons of useful information. #nochase
#lovechase ...not! Lol!
Best place to buy weld in shock tabs and such?
Tmw
Awesome info teacher. Thank you guys again for all this free info.
Do you think in 2021 Can Am, or Polaris will do a DCT like the Honda Talon? With the power these units are getting to, I would think they would need to move away from the BELT.
Heily - that’s why I am asking, I have been holding off on another SXS to see if this will happen. Right now it’s a toss up for me between the Polaris, Kawasaki, and Can Am. I am a big and tall type of guy so Honda just didn’t fit me, I guess 6’5” and 290 isn’t a good combo. The Kawasaki I really liked but WAY TO LITTLE POWER, have owned the X3 max so I know I like the can am just seating style I am not totally a fan of.
Wee Man i’d like to hear his response to this he alluded to it in a previous video I believe
I’d like to hear a response to this he alluded to it in a previous video I believe
Ive been thinking that for years. It’s why I bought the YXZ!
Shared this to my friends who has X3 #NoChase something like this video for the Textron XX seeing one on my future soon
Front A arms, or keep them as the weak link?
Wow that's crazy to hear.
We run stock unsupported a arms on our pre runner. Never failed unless I made a big mistake driving so I would say keep them.
Someone just needs to make a full chromoly frame and cage
Wow eye opener‼️ I wasn’t sure what to go with l had a choice between the can am and the rzr turbo s. I got the Polaris and this confirms I made the correct choice
Might want to wait until they do the Polaris video, every machine has issues.
I need an X3 64" FRONT Swaybar. When?
We’re not for sure on that one yet
Any new t shirts
I get one every video
You just have to check our site for shirt styles and new ones come out every few months.
Where would the RIS (with internal valving and spring kit) fall in place on this list for a 2017 X3 XDS? Or are the stock shocks good enough that it’s not on this list? Thanks in advance and great video!
Shock Therapy llc haha true true, makes sense from that standpoint. Trying to budget stuff out so this list should definitely come before any “fun” stuff lol. Thanks for the quick reply!
This is a list to help with parts that wear out or give you short trips. The shocks are not one of those. But the RIS and spring will make it way more fun to drive and you may drive much faster which in turn will wear out more parts. So, they are a contributor to the parts list I mentioned. LOL
Are the new 2021 CanAm x3 xrc Turbo RR going to have any new upgrades like better front end ?
Shock Therapy llc Do you think in 2021 Can Am, or Polaris will do a DCT like the Honda Talon? With the power these units are getting to, I would think they would need to move away from the BELT.
have to wait till July to find out.