$800 UPGRADE! WORTH IT? | RZR TURBO SHOCK THERAPY DRS SPRING KIT REVIEW | CHUPACABRA OFFROAD
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Chupacabra Offroad spent 4 months and over 700 miles in a 2018 Polaris RZR 4 Turbo Walker Evans Edition, with and without Shock Therapy's Dual Rate Stage 4 Spring Kit, to give you a detailed breakdown on setting up your RZR 4 with Walker Evans shocks, for most riding conditions in the Southwest.
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  • satherton
    satherton

    You still running the settings you gave toward the end of the video? I just installed the ST springs on my 2 seat 2018 XPT. I'm at 5.25" and 8" ST recommendations right now and a little lower ride height. I ride near Phoenix like you, so I figured I'd see if you're still happy with where you had it set.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      I've sold that RZR, but going a little lower would also be great, as I was running it high the RZR was more "tippy", and after going with an amazing tuner Wayne Isrealson of All Tech, he informed me that going higher isn't always better for overall performance. If I went to Moab I'd keep it high, but for everyday riding I might go back down .5". I hope this helps!

  • Kevin Hunter
    Kevin Hunter

    How much better does it handle the whoops any bucking

  • Boz Kurt
    Boz Kurt

    I have a 2019 rzr xp4 1000 turbo, just put the same springs and the ride is great but for some reason I can not get them to stay straight, my plastic divider rubs on the shock body both front and rear , also on the rear upper springs grinding my cross over rings, tried to turn them on different positions but could not get it to work without rubbing issue, did you have any problem lime that or my springs has so.e kind of bow on them, thanks

  • Trav City
    Trav City

    You have the best reviews. Thanks I have these springs coming tomorrow. Can’t wait.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thank you!

  • Paul T
    Paul T

    The footage at 3:04 is awesome, where is that exactly?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thanks, that is just south of El Golfo Mexico, about 70 miles north of Rocky Point. Lots of fun trails in that area.

  • John Clerke
    John Clerke

    everything shock therapy makes and does is top quality, you cant go wrong with there stuff

  • conceal it
    conceal it

    So I heard the walker evans on the standard xps were rode better and held up better than the standard fox shocks is that true?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      I would have to know which models (and years) specifically you are speaking of, but with my past experience the Fox worked better. You can have a Walker Evans RZR setup to work great as well. No matter what SxS you have I HIGHLY suggest upgrading springs and valving, money well spent.

  • Bill Koch
    Bill Koch

    Love my Shock Therapy Springs.

  • GarageGuys UTV
    GarageGuys UTV

    Where in AZ is that riding?? Sweet video!

  • G’s Life
    G’s Life

    This was a great video!

  • Ryan Hellman
    Ryan Hellman

    Where’s your favorite place to ride near Phoenix - turbo S 4

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      I haven't ridden that many spots like Sheeps Bridge or to Wickenburg, I mainly ride to Crown King, which is pretty fun, but there are probably spots I would like more that I haven't seen. I prefer the rougher whoops and bumps, but the Crown King ride is fun to get up into the mountains, it's probably best for a Summer time ride in the valley.

  • Christopher Matthews
    Christopher Matthews

    What’s your wheel offset with the 32 inch tires?

    • Christopher Matthews
      Christopher Matthews

      Nicholas Olson thank you sir

    • Nicholas Olson
      Nicholas Olson

      5/2 on this RZR...

  • mike Coleman
    mike Coleman

    How much better does it ride vs stock? Right now I have the stock mainspring and rzr aid tenders ,it made a difference but not a huge difference

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      mike Coleman it’s a lot better, and valving with springs is significant. IMO the best money you can spend, for performance gains.

  • TTR Motorsports
    TTR Motorsports

    Great video! Been setting up a lot of rigs with Shock Therapy. If you guys ever go riding in Bullhead City, AZ let us know!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thank you!

  • Taylor Page
    Taylor Page

    Do you have any tire rub on the front when the suspension bottoms out on those 32’s? Specifically on the stock springs? Great video!

    • Taylor Page
      Taylor Page

      Chupacabra Offroad, awesome! Thinking about stepping up to 32’s on our XPT; but don’t want to rub like a 1/2 ton Chevy on 35’s. 😂

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      No rub with the 32's!

  • mxman311
    mxman311

    I went and talked with them today. I am going to start with the spring upgrade first and see if that helps out my 18 turbo x4 dynamix. If im still not happy Ill have them do the valves as well but hope the springs make me happy. There is a lot left to be desired in the stock suspension.

    • mxman311
      mxman311

      @Chupacabra Offroad I hope so i was not happy with the stock suspension. You might remember me from when I was heading out with a friend I stopped to talk to you after seeing your car. Anyways ill let you know how just springs go after install on Jan 12th

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Id suggest running the crossover rings high, with the increased spring rate, and Dynamix valving, you might need both to be totally happy, curious to hear how it works out for you...

  • Javier Saucedo
    Javier Saucedo

    Wheres the location you ride in AZ?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Many times it's out by Lake Pleasant and up to Crown King.

  • Anthony Stamper
    Anthony Stamper

    1 min 49 sec into the video. Where is that place? I want to go there

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      This is El Golfo, Mexico, it's awesome!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Near Lake Pleasant...

  • Kieran Mann
    Kieran Mann

    Great video, nice detail on your set up. I just put the Eibach stage 3 set up on my 2017 RZR, similar set up to yours and I agree, best thing I've done to my RZR. Did a ride in the Hualapai Mountains... Awesome!!!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Congrats, and the Hualapai's are awesome!! rode there on the AZ Peace Trail, definitely my favorite part of the Northern part of the trail.

  • Kyle Go Hawks
    Kyle Go Hawks

    Good vid very insightful. Tires vs springs as the only performance upgrade you have done from your description. Which is better. I'm a 18 xpt dynamix owner. Up in the long lost other west coast Washington lol. I needed bigger tires, skid plate, winch, etc. I have been tossing up Walker sway bar links or springs to handle the extra weight from suspension, cage, spare tire, recovery gear, etc

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Id say tires, only because the stock Big Horns can't handle too much real off road and sharp rock abuse, even though the springs are amazing for ride quality and comfort. But budget for both!

  • Matthew Harris
    Matthew Harris

    Well, after a long weekend of mammoth riding and passing the 500 mile mark, I think it’s time to make the move to the ST springs. Thanks for your vids on mammoth, it was a blast!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Awesome, I love it up there.

  • James4wd
    James4wd

    And there we go.... another thing I didnt know I needed until now. This buying RZR parts thing just never ends 🙄🙄😂

    • James4wd
      James4wd

      @James Scherck Well aware of that lol. I spent 220 on fender flares and then $200 on a belt last weekend to go ride. Still haven't done the shocks, but maybe soon.

    • James Scherck
      James Scherck

      You have to pay to play.

    • James4wd
      James4wd

      @Chupacabra Offroad probably so, might be a while before I can afford them. I just spent $600 on accessories and some maintenance items 2 weeks ago and then I just spend another $100 earlier today for a wolfsnout cab cooler kit and a toggle switch for my radio.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Haha true story.., these will be one you probably will not regret

  • grandprismatic
    grandprismatic

    I’ve got a ‘15 RZR 900 S 2 with the Fox bypass and dual rate in the rear. On 30” BFG’s and OMF beadlocks. The rear secondary from new collapsed completely regardless of settings. Race XC and now with the Eibach springs I get about an inch and a half before the secondary kicks in. New collars and no more donkey kicking in the whoops. It was almost ridiculous how soft the stock spring rate is on them new.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Isn't it? ANd amazing how much more performance you get, as the stock springs on most all OEM models are not good!

  • Jim Smith
    Jim Smith

    Where are you taking your crossover ring measurement from, the 5" and 7.25"? The top of black seperator ring to bottom of crossover or from bottom of crossover to bottom of shock bridge. Thanks Great video>

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Jim, I'm using the same recommendation that Shock therapy uses (for simplicity and to use their setting), bottom of the upper casting to the bottom of the lowest crossover ring. Check their website for the install instructions for the photo if this isnt clear enough. Thanks for the positive feedback, good luck!

  • Densons7
    Densons7

    Quick question. How far down do you have your top shock collars front and rear? After initial install and first measurements I was 16 in the front and only 11 1/2 in the rear. Stock tires. Mine measure at front 1 7/8 from the top of shock to the shock collar. Back is a little over 3 1/2 inches. This is after I got the ride height set. Just curious. I have a 19 XPT 4 and I'll be passing this on ST so they know.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      @Densons7 thanks.

    • Densons7
      Densons7

      @Chupacabra Offroad Nick, more than right, dead on. I knew what I wanted to do, your video helped in that decision and to go with ST. I'm still working your mirrors to get them perfect, but a good product in my opinion.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      @Densons7 10-4, so was I right, good use of $800?

    • Densons7
      Densons7

      @Chupacabra Offroad I get that. And don't get me wrong, very happy with my setup, night and day difference. Still don't understand why Polaris just doesn't do this from the factory. Thanks for the info.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      @Densons7 I only focused on ride height, measuring the skid plate to the ground, front and back. This is most important, and what matters. One of the reasons these springs work much better, is because ST uses longer springs (which take up more room than the stocks did) to maximize the performance. If you are stock tires and 14 and 13.5", I would bump up each .5-.75" for ride height (so 14.5-14.75" front and 14-14,25" rear) and see if you like it better, but you are close and in the ballpark. The rear shock is significantly longer so you will have a lot more room, its just how it is. Once you are happy with ride height you can start playing with the crossover ring height.

  • Randy Simonson
    Randy Simonson

    When's the next time you planning on hitting geiser loop? I just got a plus 3 kit from super atv on and some 31 inch ko2s on a xp4 1000. I need to do some tuning and also I'm getting a gibson dual exhaust Tuesday and would really like to do a proper sound video.i want to run hard on the factory one then swap to the gibson in the desert and run the exact same to try and put out a longer review than I've seen. Let me know your schedule thanks.

    • Randy Simonson
      Randy Simonson

      @Chupacabra Offroad it will be hard for me to do the performance side by side due to the dalton kit and 31s. I'm thinking maybe more sound at this point. Just to give people something to help make decisions with. However I can put factory wheels and tires on and tune the clutch as close to stock as possible. One thing I've noticed is I'm getting backfires now. I want to say I feel a bit of difference but I think its strictly sound making me think its zoom zooming.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      @Randy Simonson You goal is to compare the Gibson exhaust versus stock? When I worked for Polaris I was told that aftermarket didn't produce much extra power at all, it was mainly sound. Is that what you are trying to compare?

    • Randy Simonson
      Randy Simonson

      @Chupacabra Offroad I went out Sunday to do a quick test on the gibson. It's not the finally review I would like. But here's the link. Let me know your opinion. Here in the next week or 2 my buddy with the same rzr will be meeting to do a side by side comparison. algone.info/slow/video/jYPRqKh6hWWLjqM

    • Randy Simonson
      Randy Simonson

      @Chupacabra Offroad We just made the run Sunday, stayed on the pipeline road up to table mesa then cut over to the trails by I17 to rock springs. Once we got back to the parking spot i made one lap on the loop. I feel the Dalton kit is dialed in but my suspension needs some love. I feel the weight of those 31s on the front. I went a bit hard on the pipeline road and destroyed the front sway bar. We may do crown king Saturday but if not you want to link up and make an exhaust review video?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Possibly in the next month. Have you tried your new setup out there?

  • Jeff Fisher
    Jeff Fisher

    Are those eibach springs that ST uses?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Jeff Fisher not 100% sure, they say it’s their own brand but I think most are made by 2-3 factories. The springs have a lifetime warranty from Shock Therapy.

  • jadoriffic
    jadoriffic

    Had ST springs on my XP 900, and they are fantastic! Picking up an Eibach stage 2 kit tomorrow morning. Can't wait to get them on and go for a bonz!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Nice! money well spent.

  • jadoriffic
    jadoriffic

    Hey, kind of off topic, but did you do any clutch work to run those 32's? If not, how's it working out? I'm considering 32's and would like to know if I need to do clutch work

    • jadoriffic
      jadoriffic

      @Chupacabra Offroad Thanks for the reply, that's great to know! Makes me much more comfortable going with 32s when I upgrade. Thanks, again!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      I left the clutching stock, and it still worked great. I know I left some performance on the table, but still ran 30" Skat paddles for the dunes, and BTW had NO broken belts in 1,400 miles and virtually no slippage. Just blew out the belt dust and scotch brighted the clutch sheaves every 500 miles.

  • Snipeuout69
    Snipeuout69

    Nice video! What was your opinion on the fox IBP's I have a 17 turbo shock therapy kit make a big difference on the foxs?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Yes, our new race RZR has the full shock therapy spring and valving, the small bump compliance is amazing. Also, their ride height was really close right out of the box, so far I'm really impressed. I'll have some videos of it soon, it has long travel and is a race car, but trust me the full spring and valving is worth the money.

  • Tim Kelley, F 50!
    Tim Kelley, F 50!

    What camera mount did you use in the car? Look awesome

    • jmrewa
      jmrewa

      Yeah some of that footage is so smooth it looks like you used a gimbal! Nice review.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thanks. RAM mounts, I love them, interchangeable and if you mount a few you can switch it up.

  • pat
    pat

    Great video. Can you tell me what your front spring rates are?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      pat cayton no. Shock Therapy keeps them hush hush and I haven’t purchased the tool to measure them. One thing I like about Shock Therapy is that they ask what accessories , your weight, etc.

  • Owen Boerboom
    Owen Boerboom

    Just picked up a 2015 1000 xp 4 with 2500 miles and 32" tires. Suspension feels too soft. My upper springs are not completely compressed yet but are close. Love the detailed video here with great info, thanks! Should I pick up new springs or with the miles I have on the machine, should I look to get the revalve too? Don't want to spend the money if I don't need to. Thanks! Awesome video!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Sounds like you are good with ride height. We are located in Peoria near Geiser Loop, not the most fun riding, but harsh and a good place to see how your setup works, if you are interested in that.

    • Owen Boerboom
      Owen Boerboom

      @Chupacabra Offroad we'll be there on the 30th through the 5th. I want a very plush ride so I might raise both an inch. Maybe too much? And it's close to 16" just over a quarter I think. Rear is 15 3/4"

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Owen, do a few good rides at that settings, and then adjust. Raise the ring if you don't feel like you are not getting close to bottoming it out. It really gets to be personal preference as it will sway a little more, which I'm willing to deal with for plushness. Lots of good places to ride in AZ, the ride to Crown King is popular, and if you are talking late Spring/ SUmmer then you should head up north to Mormon Lake or Happy Jack to escape the heat.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      In my experience the ST springs didn't settle too much. After it's been on a few rides I think you will have your true reading, and if it feels high drop it down a little, and see what you think. I'm low on my new car, and now going higher... Always learn something with each adjustment. I assume your front is around 16" ?

    • Owen Boerboom
      Owen Boerboom

      And ride hight also. I'm running 32" mongrals. I'm just a bit high because I assume the springs will settle?

  • Cuco Lopez
    Cuco Lopez

    If your contemplating buying them JUST DO IT ,its beyond worth it just did the upgrade on my 2 seat XPT but make sure you upgrade your radius rods mine bent 1st time out because you push it so much harder

    • Viper1
      Viper1

      Only have had my Xmr out in the hills of Tucson a couple of times as am deployed. Have family matters that require priority right now but S. Therapy is the 1st on the list. Sept saw a vid they did with a new setup where can be adjusted in-car...to be continued! Running 15"x32" on spacers, taking it easy until suspension upgrades. Great vid as always, keep em' coming. Love the trail heads you hit. Dually coming out of the paint shop next week for Rapter exterior job, will look sick. Towing with a set up JKU can take a toll...

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Cuco Lopez and the radius rods bend easier when you running heavier 32” tires ...

  • Jason Donston
    Jason Donston

    Hey, great video! Just curious, did you need to have any clutch work done to run 32s, or no? Awesome looking ride, by the way ; )

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thanks Jason. I have left the clutching 100% stock, no belt issues after 1,300 miles, but I run very light 30" Skat Trak paddles in the dunes, which is the only place I've ever broken a belt. I'm probably leaving a little performance on the table, but the power on hard pack is more than enough for me and I've never had an issue. Most of my buddies that have clutch work done seem to have more belt slippage and issues than me.

  • Daniel Frank
    Daniel Frank

    Anything I try to find for information I always find it for dunes. Do anyone ride in the mountains?

    • Headwaters Kayak
      Headwaters Kayak

      Post comment watch later.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Daniel Frank not sure what you are talking about, this video demonstrates we had it in Moab, Peoria, and other environments. It’s challenging to get a setup that works for both. Did you not watch the entire video?

  • JAVIER ZAMORA
    JAVIER ZAMORA

    Can you please stop smacking your lips so much LOL it gets really annoying quick 😖

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      JAVIER ZAMORA whatever you need Javier....

  • 74Beeper
    74Beeper

    Cool video! I got this kit in my 2015 XP1K with 32" Carnivores and it completely changed it.... The high speed whoops and dips are a cakewalk now.... Just picked up a 2018 Trails & Rocks and will be throwing this kit in that right away as well.... (After i have the springs powder coated gold) Thanks for the video!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      74Beeper thank you and congrats, definitely money well spent.

  • Spencer Atkins
    Spencer Atkins

    This was a great video. I need to get this spring kit for my car.

    • Spencer Atkins
      Spencer Atkins

      Shock Therapy is my next big upgrade to my RZR.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thank you, trust us it's money well spent, on any SxS. Our Can Am X3 just got upgraded, such a big difference as well!

  • Steve Hansen
    Steve Hansen

    Great video.. I too live on the west side of PHX and just picked up a XP 900 with an after market turbo. I also make videos so if you ever need help filming let me know, I have a ton of camera equipment. This channel isn't my video channel FYI.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thanks, I'll reach out if I need help.

  • Tony M
    Tony M

    Great video! Did you have your sway bars disconnected?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      No, I've kept the stock sway bars connected the entire time. I wish I would have disconnected when I was in Moab, it was really my first time on many of those trails and didn't know what to expect.

  • Silver Diaz
    Silver Diaz

    Wow everything went through me! After watching this same video about 4 times I’m somewhat understanding a little bit more. So at what setting do you recommend me going? I have a 2018 xk4 turbo, I ride a lot in Barstow which looks very similar to that terrain. I have to say I like to go somewhat fast. I don’t shy out on any whoops and drive it hard. I have noticed It feels a little hard though, 99% of the time I ride is with one passenger only. I have the walker Evans. Any tips pls , thanks and yes talk to me as if I don’t know anything , in details pls I’m really trying understand all of this and how it works

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Silver Diaz I’ve heard of the kit, and you would definitely need to Re spring for it. So it sounds like you need to decide long travel or not. I have a Super ATV steering rack on my new RZR build, but haven’t heard experiences about their LT kit. Yes, bottoming is using all the suspension! Is the Rzr brand new? If you are new and only have a few rides on it, I’d suggest you ride and get use to it, then you will really appreciate the upgrades, whichever route you go.

    • Silver Diaz
      Silver Diaz

      Chupacabra Offroad ok let me you tube rzr clickers because I have no clue what your talking about lol sorry I told you I’m as green as it gets. Yes I have 32s. I wanted more speed so I got a tune by evo, bow off valve, turbo boot, also the tube charger shit I don’t even know what I bought to be honest lol they told me that’ll make me faster so I got it. Also a Gibson duel exhaust and tomorrow I’m getting a dragon fire clutch kit installed. Maybe I’m not going fast enough and just think I’m going fast??? Cause I don’t think I’ve bottomed. Bottom means using all the travel and hitting right ? I like whoops I like driving them fast that’s all I know lol im looking into some long travel kit from super Atv’s that’s only 2k, yea I know really cheap that’s why I haven’t pulled the trigger yet have you heard anything about that kit? It’s 1799$ to be exact. So maybe getting that plus these springs I’ll be floating! Lol I’m heading to Glamis for my first time this weekend. See how that goes

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Silver Diaz, do you have 32" tires? Keep in mind my ride height is with tires that are 3" taller than stock. As for "hard", you don't bottom out? I would ensure the compression clickers are all the way soft, to see if you bottom out at all, being that you ride aggressive and Barstow is rough. If you are still on stock springs, it's stiff over the chatter, feels vague, and a new spring kit helps a lot with that. Then, having the crossover rings, will give you another adjustment option. Sounds like if you are trying to understand or get better, my advice is to measure right height, and adjust the clickers every time you stop for a break, and then see if the clicker adjustments (either stiffer or softer) make the ride better or not.

  • Christopher
    Christopher

    I noticed your heights were at 16 inches, do you add 3 inches due to you running 32's? I know ST recommends 13-13-1/2 height.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      J Day is it 13.5” with stock tires? If you are low (especially a 4 seater) you will bottom the rear more, and you are lower, in the stiffer part of the valving. I know guys that ran 2 seaters low because of handling, and if I didn’t ride in the harsh desert and ride tight trails or Worcs style racing, if also run it lower for handling. Really just preference and riding conditions and how much weight in the Rzr with passengers and accessories.

    • Breadkrum’s Channel
      Breadkrum’s Channel

      Chupacabra Offroad why is it bad to have the radius rods in rear being level? At the recommendation of ride height at 13 1/2 it puts my rear radius rods level

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Christopher, thanks for the feedback! It's such a good upgrade for the money, compared to most other accessories. I think all OEM's cheap out on stock springs, and have lots of restrictions to pass safety inspections (ride height, roll over prevention) that they are handicapped on the showroom floor. But the sotck shocks have amazing potential when you upgrade and tune, you're spending all this money for the technology and performance, why not maximize it?

    • Christopher
      Christopher

      @Nicholas Olson yeah that helped tremendously and also we don't always have the luxury to measure the vehicle while we're sitting in it when we're out there setting these things up. I think St sets a guideline for a ride height and like your video has shown, it's up to you to optimize it for the terrain and style of driving that you do.. this has been one of the best videos I found on ALgone. I am now subscribing

    • Nicholas Olson
      Nicholas Olson

      Christopher, you are right. Also, I measured with myself out of the RZR, ST recommends being in the RZR, which is a .5-.75" difference. Also, the BFG 32's are a tall 32, almost a 33" tire. Basically, I'm about .75-1" taller than their recommendations, but I'm always experimenting. The taller setting is great in really rough terrain, but with the BFG's being narrow tires, the RZR feels a little "tippy" versus my other tire setup (ITP Ultracross R Spec). One reason I like being a little high, is that it's set up for only me, so if the wife or friends get in, or I'm carrying fuel or extra supplies or a heavy cooler for a long trip, it lowers the RZR some, and reduces the bottoming I would always feel, when I would set up the RZR lower. I hope this helps...

  • Kyle Go Hawks
    Kyle Go Hawks

    Next step get a dynamix and make a new vid. It's the evolution of buying that many rigs in that time.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Kyle, I worked for Polaris, which enabled me to have a RZR each season. I agree the Dynamix is the next step, even though it's a bummer there are only 3 adjustments, unless you get a spring kit with crossover rings. I think it will evolve to the point that you wont need a sway bar (hopefully), or there will also be an option (seeing a few people build these already) qucik sway bar disconnects, so you can go from full rock crawler to a stiff sand dune setting.

  • edgar lopez
    edgar lopez

    El golfo de Santa Clara ! Best place to be at

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Very cool spot for sure, I'll be back in Spring! Lots of cool riding and terrain in the area. I watched highlights from the Sonoran Rally and it looks like there is a ton of riding if you get out and explore it!

  • G’s Life
    G’s Life

    Just purchased the 4 seat Dynamix turbo, what would you recommend? I have not taken it out yet but I want the best suspension available.

    • G’s Life
      G’s Life

      Chupacabra Offroad Doors mounted on real nice. I had them install, but doors can always be a pain in the butt because you have to be adjusting so they fit perfect.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Very clean. How did the doors mount up? I've heard good and bad on fitment, but I love the look.

    • G’s Life
      G’s Life

      algone.info/slow/video/oITRnX2YnX9ltZ8

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      The "RJ Anderson tunes" are fictitious at this point, hopefully in the future.... Thanks for the compliment!

    • G’s Life
      G’s Life

      Chupacabra Offroad Thanks for that info, i will download the RJ Anderson tunes. I can’t wait to take it out. Hey awesome videos man. Keep up the good work!

  • Tom K
    Tom K

    Those x-over rings are crazy high, when i did mine they suggested 1" in the front from the top of the plastic spring separator to the o-ring face and 2 1/2" in the rear

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      You are talking about the measurement at ride height? I'm not bottoming out (on the hardpack), although there is a little added sway, which I'm currently willing to deal with, given the plushness. I will definitely drop the rings when I head to the sand dunes, or (consistently) have more weight in the RZR. It's just what I'm into right now, and I really need to go for the re-valve and stiffer sway bar to get to the next performance level. But for the money invested I'm pretty happy, this RZR is more of a budget build, and I'm working on a new project that will be on a whole other level.

  • Brennan Cotogno
    Brennan Cotogno

    Great Video! Machine looks great! I was curious on the adjustments for riding with 3-4 people. I have the same 2018 Turbo 4 with WE's. I just got my shocks back from shock therapy with the new springs and re valve and the car feels great. I have not had a chance ride with 4 passengers since I got the new shock work done. Did you feel you needed to adjust the crossover rings for the added weight of the passengers, or do you feel just by stiffening up compression dampeners it would be fine. I just want to eliminate an bottoming out which i have not experienced yet with two people.

    • Brennan Cotogno
      Brennan Cotogno

      Awesome. Thanks for the info. I will try it out this weekend

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Michael David I would say yes to lowering the crossovers, especially if the riders in back are more that 30-40 lbs and or riding in sand dunes. If the rear riders are 120+ I’d suggest hedging a little higher on ride height as well... always hard to tune these types of changes! Then fine tune with clickers based on how aggressive you are driving, total passenger weight, heavy cooler, etc.

  • christopher12311
    christopher12311

    side note what kind of shades are those at 8:42

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      christopher12311 Fox. I worked for Fox for 8.5 years and still have a closet full of Fox everything... haha. When Fox first launched eyewear they were made by Oakley, now they are not...

  • Jade bylund
    Jade bylund

    Does shock therapy make a dual rate spring kit for my 17 xpt4? Fox shocks of course

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      They do, they also offer a valving upgrade service for those shocks as well.

    • Nicholas Olson
      Nicholas Olson

      They do, they also offer a valving upgrade service for those shocks as well.

  • sharkfin2009
    sharkfin2009

    I wish I had used Shock Terapy on my 2017 XPT. I did the stage 3 fox upgrade. $1600 and I cannot even get a return email or phone call from Fox. I am done trying. Customer service by fox is terrible. Thanks for the review.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      That's a bummer! I love Fox as a company, but it is what it is. I like that Shock Therapy is local and offers a lifetime warranty on the springs. I think local is a big deal in terms of suspension tuning, to be able to offer great customer service, like suspension tuning services in the dirt bike market. Are the Fox shocks significantly better at least? I assume you have the High/ Lo compression adjust, better springs and crossover rings?

    • Nicholas Olson
      Nicholas Olson

      That's a bummer! I love Fox as a company, but it is what it is. I like that Shock Therapy is local and offers a lifetime warranty on the springs. I think local is a big deal in terms of suspension tuning, to be able to offer great customer service, like suspension tuning services in the dirt bike market. Are the Fox shocks significantly better at least? I assume you have the High/ Lo compression adjust, better springs and crossover rings?

  • code3dee1
    code3dee1

    Did you change the clutch weights for the 32’s?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      No, I'm still running stock, no belt issues. I will install and tune a clutch kit just to see, but I'm happy with performance, and really just want to add reliability.

  • James Ford
    James Ford

    Great video thanks

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thanks James!

  • Todd Ullmann
    Todd Ullmann

    Nice review, and I wonder how these would do on the new RS1? I'm thinking of getting the RS1 soon

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      I haven't driven an RS1 but I'm sure it would be a great improvement, it's so lightweight I bet you could really set it up plush!

  • Mike Desilets
    Mike Desilets

    Love the thorough, multi terrain report.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Mike Desilets thanks!

  • boltactionshooter
    boltactionshooter

    I have a 2016 XTP with the Fox IBP shocks and took my car to AZ and had ST do their full stage 4 kit with new front and rear sway bars and rear SB braces. I dropped the car off in the morning loaded with everything in it just like I ride and picked it up that afternoon and have not had to touch a thing even after a couple 1000 miles. It is absolutely amazing. I grin from ear to ear overtime I drive it. I ride all over the country, best $2700 I have ever spent!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      They've got a lot of data from being at Glamis on all the big weekends, racing, etc. I'm not paid to endorse them, just spreading the good word about a great value when your looking to spend major money (like you did). The IBP's can be tricky to set up too, glad you're happy!

  • Josh & Brooke Gallman
    Josh & Brooke Gallman

    Great video! Do you prefer the WE shocks with the shock therapy springs or the 2017 fox IBP shocks?

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Thanks Josh! I love the Ghost Grey, but the Orange was too much for me. Very solid SxS, the 2017+ stays a good 10-15 degrees cooler than my buddies 2016, they ironed it out much better I think. I haven't burnt any belts, or been in limp mode, pretty reliable.

    • Josh & Brooke Gallman
      Josh & Brooke Gallman

      Awesome thank you so much. I have the same rzr but in ghost grey and am just trying to get the best set up for the right price. You got yourself a new subscriber here!

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      Josh, I'd have to say that dollar for dollar, the Walkers with springs is a better buy: If I were going to buy a 2018 Turbo RZR, the Walker machine is $3K less, so $800 for springs are you are in a much better spot IMO. The high dollar Fox IBP ($5K) shocks are amazing, if you could find a deal on those, and sell the stockers, it's worth it. But I think the spring kit would make most people really happy, it really depends how picky you are and how much you think you will spend long term to get the performance you want.

  • Mac Johnson
    Mac Johnson

    Very well edited video. I'm planning on at least doing the spring kit for my XP4 but I'm also considering sending them in to re-valve this winter. I know on my dirt bike, re-valving also made a world of difference.

    • Chupacabra Offroad
      Chupacabra Offroad

      I'm a dirt bike guy too, and have had the privilege of owning A-Kit suspension, once you taste a good setup you realize what you are missing! I'm also considering the revalve and sway bar kit.

  • Chupacabra Offroad
    Chupacabra Offroad

    Who's upgraded their springs and also been "over the moon" happy?

    • Matthew
      Matthew

      Mee!!

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