32 inch Tires on the Honda Talon - Before and After
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GPS WAS USED TO GET SPEEDS- So you are wondering what kind of changes to power adding 32" tires will make to your Honda Talon. Well, so was I. After making the decision to put 32" Tusk Terrabites on my Honda Talon X4 Live Valve, I decided to put together a video comparing the 2. Hopefully, this will answer your questions. So should you put 32's on your Talon? Watch the video to find out.
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  • Deranged Off-Road
    Deranged Off-Road

    Speed was tested using cell phone GPS. Purchased a dragy and will update the results in a future video. -Joe

  • Glock Man
    Glock Man

    What psi do you run in 32s

    • Glock Man
      Glock Man

      Thanks for the reply back, putting 32s of BFG km3 on the wifes 1000r fox live valve. Just wondering what psi you run. Im old school and still run the ATV. I'm usually 2 miles behind her. Lol

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      10-12. -Joe

  • John Knecht
    John Knecht

    Great honest, detailed video!

  • R I
    R I

    I just picked up a Talon X4 LV and immediately put 32’s on it. I’m still breaking it all in, but haven’t worked up the nerve to try launch mode with the heavier 32’s. Have you had any issues using launch on a heavier tire?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      I’ve used it a few times with the 32’s. I don’t use launch mode often though. -Joe

  • James Snodgrass
    James Snodgrass

    great vid

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      It’s ok Dave does way better vids. 👍 -Dave 😀

  • deja mccarroll
    deja mccarroll

    I want to know are they good side by side?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Yes, overall the Talon is a great machine!

  • frosty l
    frosty l

    Dang that sucks and 32s look sooooo good on your honda

  • Benji Holt
    Benji Holt

    Thanks for sharing and doing the video, Joe. Helped me make my decision. For me, clearance is way more important than 0-60 time on my Talon. I have other machinery for 0-60 thrills. Glad the 32's work well.

  • daniel frisse
    daniel frisse

    Can you still feel the live valve working with the larger tires?

  • motorsports4life
    motorsports4life

    To do the test the right way you need a radar gun. The 32 inch tires is probably tell the talon it's going 60. But it most likely actually speed is 63 or 65. Which means it will take longer to get up to speed. Showing it takes longer to get up to speed. Not sure if you use a radar gun. Just my thoughts.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Officer Bob was busy with the ole radar gun so we used gps instead

  • Simply Offroad
    Simply Offroad

    I wonder how that effects the tiny tailing arms it has too.

  • Craig Widdison
    Craig Widdison

    With the bigger tires, has the temperature on the clutches gone up? That is my only concern. Thanks

  • Kevin Braun
    Kevin Braun

    Hey Joe, I just when to big o to put 30x10x15 tires on mine but they are saying they won't fit on the front with stock rims

    • Jordan Chitwood
      Jordan Chitwood

      Hey man, how many inches of ground clearance do you have now with the 32s?

    • Kevin Braun
      Kevin Braun

      Ya i got there and they figured it out. I went with Tusk Terrabite 8 ply. They look pretty awesome on the rims, can wait to get them on my Talon. Thanks for the video's they really helped me decide on tire and size

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      My 32’s are 10x15’s... guys are Big-O are trying to sell you something else... unless you went with truck tires and they have a much different bead.

  • DonziGT230
    DonziGT230

    If you were using the speedo to figure out your 0-60 times and it wasn't recalibrated your test is flawed and the car lost less acceleration than your numbers indicate.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Read the comments...

  • Off Road Madness
    Off Road Madness

    So you did not add a programmer...so 0 - 60 on spedo with 32is more like 0-65...fyi... if you want to get accurate results get a gps.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      GPS was used as mentioned in the comments and video description.

  • Jonathan Lagace
    Jonathan Lagace

    I guess it really depends what you want them for. If you're looking to crawl or do some mud, the clearance from the 32's is nice. If you're purely after speed staying close to stock is better.

  • Luke Lengenfelder
    Luke Lengenfelder

    Did you use the factory rim offset for the 32" tires? It looks like I may have to run a different offset to get enough clearance. Thanks great video!

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Thanks! Yeah, factory wheels, no spacers.

  • Harvey Weizmann
    Harvey Weizmann

    you have to flash the transmission's ecu... turbo kit offers the mod/tune file.. it changes the shift timing.

  • Dash
    Dash

    How off is the speedometer now?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Roughly 11%. At 45 mph in the speedo, I’m doing 50mph. At 60mph, on the speedo I’m doing 67ish mph. -Joe

  • blkgixxerslvr
    blkgixxerslvr

    Ya I’m not spending $30k on a 15 second 0-60 bike. Get your shit together Honda and offer a turbo that doesn’t make my already $30k bike a freakin $36k bike.

  • gil1088
    gil1088

    What size trailer u using to haul it with those 32s on?

  • dwalker2431
    dwalker2431

    Time for a turbo I put 51 inches on mine.

  • Hugh Cecil
    Hugh Cecil

    I’m thinking 30’s max. That’s way too much torque loss. Really afraid what I’d lose in the steep terrain where I live (NW Montana). Gotta be able to climb steep. Then again, you could just pop in the Jackson Racing Turbo and be right where you want to be.

    • Badger Cat in a Honda Talon
      Badger Cat in a Honda Talon

      Or use low range

  • jebusm86
    jebusm86

    Gotta do the turbo if you're gonna go up in tires. Unless you're into rock crawling the machine is going to work harder to push those tires. Looks great but there is a sacrifice.

  • Stratosphere Everything
    Stratosphere Everything

    Did you calibrate the speedo for the larger tires? Larger tires your 0 to 60 could be 0 to 70. I don't know exactly I do know there is a difference.

    • Brett Bret
      Brett Bret

      He didn't need to because he used a cell phone GPS for the speed.

  • Rob R
    Rob R

    Speedo is way off on 32” 60 is likely 68mph

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Read previous comments.

  • Jay Mono
    Jay Mono

    Why will they not sell the 4 seater in Canada?!?! I want one!

  • Keith Clayton
    Keith Clayton

    What did the overall height measure with the 32” tires on?

  • Neil Jordan
    Neil Jordan

    Did you change the Speedometer after you put the bigger tires on I think it would change the Speedometer

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      GPS was used

  • Terry Watson
    Terry Watson

    28 to 32 inch tire is throwing off speedometer. A 4inch difference is about a 7.5 to 10.1 mph difference. Is the test being done with radar gun or speedo on vehicle. Some more specifics???? Thanks

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Speed was GPS on Phone. Definitely not super accurate but better than reading the speedo. New vid coming soon. Thanks for watching -Joe

  • Tommy Fogarty
    Tommy Fogarty

    There's a formula that should have accurately projected a "zero to sixty" time when you changed the gear ratio (which is effectively what you did when changing tire diameter), but I really don't think that is a meaningful performance figure for most. The bigger tires do so much for the vehicle in other ways that they are almost always a desirable mod. I have always wondered why most manufacturers don't offer larger DOT tires/wheels as a factory option.

  • Johnny Wishbone
    Johnny Wishbone

    did you adjust your speedometer for this test? Maybe you didn't know when you really hit 60. I had a toyota PU I put 31's on and i was going a lot faster when my spedo said 60, so i would have already been doing 60 way before my spedo said

    • Johnny Wishbone
      Johnny Wishbone

      @Deranged Off-Road fair enough

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      GPS was used

  • Randy H
    Randy H

    I see already mentioned a few times, bigger tires throw your speedometer off. Every tire revolution you went further on the larger tires so you were going more than 60 mph so it didn't take as long as you thought. to get to 60.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      It's also been said many times that all speeds were measured using gps.

  • Donovan Maclean
    Donovan Maclean

    I heard you need to get the motor re programed for the bigger tires.have you ask the dealer about that.

  • Chris Fontana
    Chris Fontana

    Hey Joe. Another question. The fronts are 9" wide and the rears are 11" wide. So you can still put 32/10/15's on both of them? Also are the front and rear wheels (rims) the same width, or are they the same width as the tires? Sorry for so many questions about this but I want to make sure the terrabites will fit. Thanks.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Wheels are all the same size and yeah, they are 10" wide all 4 corners. Very slight rub at full turn when you hit a big bump. -Joe

  • Josh Shaw
    Josh Shaw

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  • Richard Harris
    Richard Harris

    Who taught you how to measure

  • Chris Fontana
    Chris Fontana

    Hey Joe, Are these tires 32/10/15 all around. I would like to put these tires on mine as well. Are there any issues with rubbing/scrubbing on the front tires? I just picked up my Talon 1000x-4 and have put on a windshield and mirrors. I purchased OEM front and rear bumpers which I am having painted to match the orange of the Talon. I also have a rear tinted window to install.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Had a little bit of rub on my ride today. At full crank and hitting a bump. -Joe

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Congrats on the new rig! Yup, all 4 corners.

  • Tom Johnson
    Tom Johnson

    I think you missed an important consideration with your test. Did you use a hug gun or gps for speed or your speedo? If you relied on your speedometer for the 60 mph, then with the 32's you were actually going faster than 60. This would lead to the much slower times.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Gps was used.

  • Joe Broderick
    Joe Broderick

    New Tire Diameter: 32 OEM Tire Diameter: 28 Speedometer (MPH): 60 Actual Speed: 68.57142857142857 MPH Speed Offset: 114.28571428571428 %

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      All speeds in this video were done by gps

  • Mark Coleman
    Mark Coleman

    Are you in sport mode whilst performing these 0-60mph tests sir?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      No, standard auto in both. Definitely makes a difference to have it in sport.

  • steve s
    steve s

    Turbo will fix that! LOL

  • Gerrym91
    Gerrym91

    Just like a truck you need to regear it and do some clutch work for the bigger tires

    • Christopher Cain
      Christopher Cain

      Gerrym91 easier said than done on these having the DCT transmission.

  • Odyssey Offroad
    Odyssey Offroad

    Great video, 32's definitely makes a huge difference. i was told the computer after a few miles re learns how to shift with the bigger tires. i have the same ones on my machine and so does my brother. nice choice, perfect tire for here in AZ.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Thanks! Love it so far! Didn't notice anything on my last ride. - Joe

  • Sean Sparkman
    Sean Sparkman

    Nice video. I did enjoy it. Only thing is you didn’t have your speedometer recalibrated for the bigger tires so times are not accurate

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      6-7 mph at 60 -Joe

    • Sean Sparkman
      Sean Sparkman

      Deranged Off-Road copy. With that being said. How far off is your speedometer with the 32”.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Times and speeds were done on gps

  • Tom Laney
    Tom Laney

    Did you use a gps speed source? If you went with the stock speedo, the larger tires may have given you a false reading. I just picked up the Talon 4 live valve, and I put some beadlocks and 28" Mongrels. I don't really care about top speed, but moreover am interested in crawling, so far SUPER impressed!! Good review!!!

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      The test I did was with GPS speeds. Full disclosure though, it was on a phone and they can be off by a few MPH as well. I'd like to get some beadlocks as well...They're on the ever-growing list.. -Joe

  • Mark Oberly
    Mark Oberly

    Your mom goes 0-60 in 9.3. Great informative video. Lets race

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      😂 indeed brother! Indeed!

  • James Young
    James Young

    Good video did u have to use any spacers with those 32's

    • Badger Cat in a Honda Talon
      Badger Cat in a Honda Talon

      @Deranged Off-Road need,,,, no,,,, but using spacers in the rear will put all wheels in same track. When I get in deep stuff my rear moves around in the ruts compared to the front. I am putting 6/1 all around with 1 1/2 inch spacers in rear with 32/10/15.

    • James Young
      James Young

      @Ben Corrales 30×10×15

    • James Young
      James Young

      @Ben Corrales yes

    • Ben Corrales
      Ben Corrales

      So are all 4 tires the same size?

    • James Young
      James Young

      @Deranged Off-Road I appreciate the quick response I haven't even picked it up yet 2week wait

  • Nonerequired
    Nonerequired

    If you're going to re-test your 0-60 times, you should probably use a Draggy or at the very least a GPS for the speed. 4" different in tires is going to throw your speedo off by quite a bit. Yes, the apparent gearing is going to be different, but so is the speedo.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Joshua Vondenhuevel gps was used. Not the speedo.

    • Joshua Vondenhuevel
      Joshua Vondenhuevel

      @Deranged Off-Road Yes, If speedometer was reading 60 in both, 32s would have actually been around 68 mph. It would make a big difference in numbers so it is misleading.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      GPS was used in this video

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Already planning the follow up... -Joe

  • Matthew
    Matthew

    did you notice if your transmission shift points were at the same rpm between both tires?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Lower gears seemed normal, 3rd seemed like it came about the same and 4-6 felt/sounded like the revs dropped too low after the shift. To be honest, I set up a camera to monitor the speed at each shift point but for whatever reason, the footage disappeared... Either way, I’m sure it would’ve made a difference to have the transmission in sport mode rather than standard automatic. Hope that helps. -Joe

  • gtsum2
    gtsum2

    First, great job comparing the differences in tire size. Second, Wow the Honda is slow as molasses. They need to offer a factory turbo with live valve shocks...I might consider one then...until then my x3 turbo does me good

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Thanks for watching. We’ll definitely be doing some follow up videos with better speed monitoring and different tires sizes. Factory turbo would be SLICK but I don’t see it happening soon. 3-5 years maybe... -Joe

  • Your Name
    Your Name

    As long as it works for you that’s the main thing. I feel like a big population of the UTV community just likes to stand around the drag strip and race their buddies. So of course to them 0-60 is everything. Looks really good with the bigger tires. You can always add the turbo later.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      True that! The talons with turbo’s installed rip! I’d love to see a four seat R model with a turbo! -Joe

  • wayhe owen
    wayhe owen

    Very good information for the Talon owners. My Son-in-law has one, so he will be interested, as he does not like the stock tires. Thanks for putting this information out there!

  • Arizona Picker
    Arizona Picker

    I also run 32 inch terrabites on my Talon R and I think they are a Great tire overall, Very Durable. I do wonder if the lack of traction the Terrabite get compared to the stock tire could have played a role? Great vid, Very informative.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Thank you! It Definitely could have. I'm sure the weight played a major role as well. -Joe

  • Barnard Custom Ag
    Barnard Custom Ag

    Do the front tires scrub at all when you turn?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      No. 50 miles in on the tires, haven’t had them scrub once. -Joe

  • honeybadgerl39
    honeybadgerl39

    When honda comes out with a stock terba and some more suspension travel I might look at it. Honda has great reliability but man they are slow af. Now with that said if you don't care about speed then I'm sure it's a great machine.

  • Jesse Allen
    Jesse Allen

    100 hp is just not enough for 1700lb weight machine, all the talon is good for is rock crawling

    • iBrap
      iBrap

      @Jesse Allen mine blows the doors off anything within the first 3 gears easily. Takes forever for those turbos to spool up. So not sure what you're talking about. On fast trails it literally cannot be touched. Plus these are live valve 2.0 which polaris uses the first gens. No belt, no carrier bearing, one less u joint. A reverse gear instead of a chain. Just a far superior machine. It's okay to be wrong. But it is not okay to lie. You have zero seat time.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Jesse Allen had nothing to do with honda. Had everything to do with improper installation of the air intake

    • Jesse Allen
      Jesse Allen

      spyder000069 Well one guy just claimed that his motor blew cause dirt was getting into his motor , look it up Honda blown engine !! My RZR worst fine never blew a belt !!!

    • spyder000069
      spyder000069

      @Jesse Allen Better to have extra power vs underpowered debate: Depends on if you have a reputation for reliability. You know what the reputation of polaris is? :^) I can live with a little slower machine if I don't have to work on it often or get towed home.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      It’s 90.5 wheel horsepower but I get what your saying. Pros and cons to N/A and Turbos. I’d love to have one and will go that way when I need a 2 seater. I’m sure plenty of research went on by Honda and Kawasaki when they came out with n/a machines and it’s obvious there was demand. You’re starting to see them all over the place. -Joe

  • Bob Laws
    Bob Laws

    Good to see a good, honest review about what actually happens when you go up 4" in tire size. So tired of all the fanboy talk about how they couldn't feel any difference when jumping up in tire size. Fortunately it sounds like the gearing is right in 1st and 2nd so you can get some good use out of those 32's. Hopefully the three of you guys can get together soon and do a comparison between all three rigs. I think all three have their own place in the market.

    • iBrap
      iBrap

      They also relearn shift points in about 50 miles of having new tires.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Thanks! We'll be together a couple times over the next few months and will definitely put some related content together. Super happy with the 32's for now. -Joe

  • JUST BRIAN
    JUST BRIAN

    Very good review, been waiting on someone to do this....... do you have any rubbing issues with the larger tires and just because I'm still in research mode on the Talon X4, how much fuel are you taking with you on these longer trips and have you ever come close to running out on the trail w/the 7 gallon tank?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      I haven't had any running through the slow technical or quicker tight cornering stuff. As for the fuel, I haven't been on a long enough trip yet to notice but it's on the list. Loving this rig though! -Joe

  • Jack Williamson
    Jack Williamson

    Thank you for the test! It helps.

  • Rob Hough
    Rob Hough

    You said you kept the stock rims. What's the tire size for the 32s you're running? Are they the same front and rear instead of being fatter in the rear like stock?

    • Rob Hough
      Rob Hough

      @Deranged Off-Road I wonder if that's why it seemed like you didn't gain as much ground clearance in the rear. Wider rims spread them more.

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      32x10-15 all around. - Joe

  • DUNE YXZ
    DUNE YXZ

    Great job on the video Joe! Very honest and informative...most people don’t know how much a difference larger tires make on power. I’ve stayed with the stock Bighorns on my YXZ for that reason. I know larger tires would kill my ability to climb hills in Glamis.

    • DUNE YXZ
      DUNE YXZ

      Matthew Lund Yes, it’s really is

    • Rob Hough
      Rob Hough

      In the dunes you would run paddles so you could still run stock size for that.

    • Matthew Lund
      Matthew Lund

      Lololol.... china wall was very intimidating.

    • DUNE YXZ
      DUNE YXZ

      Deranged Off-Road Lol

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Yeah, I won't be climbing China wall anytime soon that's for sure! 😜 -Joe

  • Kyle Reeves
    Kyle Reeves

    doesnt the talon have a "smart transmission" too? i think after time its supposed to adjust to the tires you put on, driving style etc. I dont know how much stock you can put in that, but I think its a feature.

    • Badger Cat in a Honda Talon
      Badger Cat in a Honda Talon

      Hmmm, heard machines learns your driving, but that goes towards shift points, mine as learned auto is lazy, sport is more heavy trail use, er takes shift pints from 4500 to 7500.

    • Todd Wilkerson
      Todd Wilkerson

      I have heard same for their trans. That after driving for a while it will remap for tire size. Would like to see another speed test after driven a while.

    • Don O
      Don O

      I heard the same regarding smart transmission. I think though for dessert terrain 30's would be a great choice unless you are rock crawling. Thanks for sharing, hopefully someone has the same comparison on 30's.

  • AZAdventure
    AZAdventure

    I think if I were to go larger I would want a larger rim. Hopefully might keep the weight down. I wouldn't go 32's on mine, but 30's yes. I can see why you did it on yours. Bet the ride is better also.

  • Ed Callahan
    Ed Callahan

    Good video - I was waitnig for a vid like this. So for rock crawling in low im assuming the 32s wont hurt the power when in low. What do you think? sub'd...

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Man, I'd love too! Don't think I could get that past the wife Committee... 😜 -Joe

    • FastEddie760
      FastEddie760

      @Deranged Off-Road Turbo time 😎

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      While in high gear, I barely noticed in 1st and 2nd. When in low, I noticed no difference at all. It's when you hit 3rd, you start to feel it. -Joe

  • Titantramp4u
    Titantramp4u

    Thanks for taking the time to do all that testing....:)

  • Marvin Evans
    Marvin Evans

    I think sport mode is the way to drive the Talon all the time,except when one wants to paddle shift just for fun. Zero to 60 has so little to do with how I ride, but I definitely want to have mid range punch. I suspect your machine will get quite a bit better as it breaks in. You have so few miles that the engine is still really tight. Glad you like them-keep us updated! 👍😎

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      You're probably right. I'll tell you this, I had a blast on those 32's this past weekend! LOVE. THIS. RIG.

  • Mark A Johnson
    Mark A Johnson

    Don't you need to correct speedometer for tire size? or did you use GPS?

    • Eric Pritchard
      Eric Pritchard

      Don’t you have to select the tire size in the computer so the transmission adjust accordingly?

    • Deranged Off-Road
      Deranged Off-Road

      Phone GPS for the speedo so times probably aren't perfect. I'll be running it again soon after I determine the change the tire size made to my speedo. The speed was secondary in my mind. What said more to me was the amount of time I spent in each of the higher gears. Barely got out of 5th.

  • Deranged Off-Road
    Deranged Off-Road

    Check out DUNE YXZ on ALgone! He supports us on Patreon, you should too! 😜 Link in the description. algone.info